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The PM program [May. 10th, 2010|02:43 pm]
Richard Clegg
I'm trying to work but I'm mainly just pressing refresh on the BBC website to see if we have a government yet. Well the result could have been worse but not much. A Lib-Conservative pact would look like a total disaster to me with eroded Lib Dem support (how many people are already "never lib dem again" even before this), not much chance of any actual electoral reform and a very small number of LD MPs trying to claim they are "influencing" policy. Also is it really likely that any kind of electoral reform bill would get through given I reckon many tories would defy the party whip on such a matter. In a way the nicest possible result would be a minority Tory government which would quickly turn in on itself as the Tory party typical habit of eating its young in times of stress. What are the rest of you hoping/fearing from this?
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[User Picture]From: andrewducker
2010-05-10 01:47 pm (UTC)
This is all you need to refresh:
http://havethetoriesformedagovernmentyet.com/

I don't care what happens so long as we get electoral reform. If the LibDems can't get that through then they shouldn't be in a coalition with anyone. A minority Conservative government would be my secondary choice at the moment, as they'd be forced to actually talk to other parties and pass laws that include compromise...

Part of me would like to see them tear themselves apart, but I'd actually be happier with political parties that learned how to work with each other. And a unicorn. I'd really like a unicorn.

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[User Picture]From: steer
2010-05-10 01:57 pm (UTC)

I don't care what happens so long as we get electoral reform.


It's well below, say, the economy, housing policy, education, health care, the tax system, the banking system, immigration, foreign policy and... many other things... on my list of priorities.

If the LibDems can't get that through then they shouldn't be in a coalition with anyone.

If they team up with the tories they might well lose so many votes they'll wish there was FPTP again. I don't see a Lib/Tory coalition getting it voted through in any case. You would only need 40 or so Tory rebels for it to fail and most tory candidates hate anything other than FPTP.
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[User Picture]From: glennkenobi
2010-05-10 02:10 pm (UTC)
It's more fun than an outright majority. It's real politics, not decision by steam roller. If it all fails it's a worthwhile experiment in government by collaboration and compromise rather than one team forcing everything they want through.
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[User Picture]From: steer
2010-05-10 02:17 pm (UTC)
If we were ready for that kind of mature politics in this countries where policies were voted for on their merit rather than on the affiliation of the suggesting party I would welcome it. Unfortunately, we seem to be more geared for point scoring and opposition than actually passing good laws in our political system.
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[User Picture]From: valkyriekaren
2010-05-10 02:13 pm (UTC)
In a way the nicest possible result would be a minority Tory government which would quickly turn in on itself as the Tory party typical habit of eating its young in times of stress.

Yes, this is prety much what I'm hoping. Let the Tories form a minority government, allow them to take the blame for all the cuts and tax hikes that the next six months will bring, then have another General Election which will hopefully see them ousted from power for a generation.
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[User Picture]From: steer
2010-05-10 02:16 pm (UTC)
More to the point there will be six months of "shall we or shall we not keep Cameron" which will be hugely damaging either way.
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[User Picture]From: mister_ed
2010-05-10 02:38 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: steer
2010-05-10 02:47 pm (UTC)
You are hoping for government by pissed off australians with guns?
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[User Picture]From: vin_petrol
2010-05-10 03:02 pm (UTC)
Who gets the Kawasaki Z1000s and who gets the the last of the V-8 interceptors?
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[User Picture]From: ms_siobhan
2010-05-10 04:30 pm (UTC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8672859.stm

Who will they have instead? either one of the Millibands? Balls (I hope not as I think he is really unpleasant) or Johnson? Harman continuing as Deputy perhaps, can't see her getting enough support to be leader.
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[User Picture]From: steer
2010-05-10 05:30 pm (UTC)
I like the Millibands but I can never remember which is which. Environment Milliband is my favourite.
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[User Picture]From: drdoug
2010-05-10 07:16 pm (UTC)
The big advantage I can see of the Millibands is that you could install them as leader in a RAID 1 configuration and hot-swap one out of office if he develops a fault.
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[User Picture]From: ms_siobhan
2010-05-10 07:42 pm (UTC)
One's got slightly bozzy eyes and one's got really thick hair. Thick hair is David Foreign Secretary and Bozzy eyed boy is Ed - Mr Environment. I think I prefer David.
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[User Picture]From: steer
2010-05-11 09:48 am (UTC)
I really would quite like PR

Honestly, the tories will offer a referendum on AV -- that's a bollocks offer because you know they will then campaign against it -- and even if you get it it's a bit shit. Not something the Lib Dems really want much and I doubt they'll get it either.
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